Honestly this is one of the best novels I've read. Even tho this novel has some fantasy elements it steel feels realistic and believable, emotional and gripping. Isaac is very relatable, the pain he feels hits so close to home and honestly I cried a little while reading... Also the characters are, something else, I've never seen such clever 4D chess mind games, they confuse not only Isaac, but me as well. The art and music is very charming and beautiful too.
Wish I could volunteer for synth testing program as well ngl...
I just tried out the game, by curiosity, but I ended up almost playing through all chapters in one session. (Of course, I didn't just speedrun the game...)
I didn't get to play it until now, probably scared off by the heavy topics warning, and having a lot on my mind lately.
However, I think this heavy topics warning is kind of insignifiant in the game. I'm not saying the warning isn't needed through...
I honestly got flabbergasted by this VN, in more ways than I can probably figure out. Sure, there isn't any paths/choices in it, compared to every other VN I played. But seriously... The ambiance, the backgrounds, the music, the characters...
WARNING Spoilers ahead
Most importantly: The combat scenes !!! They're just so unique and epic.
I love every details of this VN and can't wait for the next chapter !
I'm curious about why you say that? I'm still kinda looking out for that suicide topic... Not that I want Isaac to do that, but I think I might be getting closer to such a buildup while reading this story. Also I can't believe the world he lives in where you can't even defend yourself from others without going to jail....
I liked this game, and now I've got toasters on the brain. Thanks for making what you have, and I'll be keeping an eye on this for future content!
Spoiler-y, so gonna pad some space here. Play the game first, nerd.
I take the Newton's Flaming Laser Sword approach when it comes to abstracts like yuumanity, but I still enjoyed the back and forth between the characters in the story about trying to break down what it is and all the new things I learned about them as the story went on! Great job with that.
The concept of after-story content was something I never considered! It's a great idea! I enjoyed the little side things in there almost more than I did with our toasty friend.
... Now, if I were a toaster told not to make a scene that one time, I think I'd take the nearest willing pink and purple participant, have them spread their arms out on each side, and give them a piggyback ride while making airplane noises all over the aisles. Consequences be darned.
Does the Ren’Py embedded in the PC build is same as Ren’Py embedded in the Android APK file? Since I can’t load my saves from Android to PC, it throws an error about module not found, assuming the APK file uses old version of Ren’Py that has the module while the PC does not have the module because of the new Ren’Py version.
Honestly, I've no idea! It might be the case, I have a friend compile the android builds for me and our Renpy versions might not coincide. If you're having trouble loading old saves, try using the Chapter Select feature! Just start a new game, answer "no" to the prompt, then resume browsing from whichever chapter you left off at. ^w^
build 16 is absolutely insane. from a mad concentration of some of the best art i have seen, to a soundtrack that goes hard and the best dramatic thread yet. it's hard to believe that this is not only free, but exists to begin with. i cannot express how much of a credit to the format this is.
okay so i found the fuck up. after looking though the logs, files, etc. you changed the name of "bg bloomburg fountain.webp" in the older versions, splitting them into "bg bloomburg fountain day.webp" and "bg bloomburg fountain evening.webp" but you forgot to update the code from before.
I just got through the prologue and woah I really love this vn! I might be overanalyzing but this might be a not so subtle allegory for gender affirming surgery for trans people on a narrative about self-identity, consciousness, ai, and the philosophical debate of what makes you really you. If this was the intention of the writer then this vn freaking rules! Regardless the writing is great and the story is intriguing, will continue reading more :DD
I love this story so far but still donno about one thing... Why is LGBT tag here? I mean, thats how ive found this VN, but i didnt see anything... related as well. Asking just out of curiosity, it doesnt affect my impression of this game >,>
Depending on the first few (and only) choices in the game, you can either keep the MC's given name, or change it to one of your (their) liking, along with choosing their preferred pronouns. If you do decide to alter their identity, the game remembers this, and certain characters will interact with the MC a little differently depending on their choice. Some readers feel as though this is a metaphor for trans people and trans self-expression (whether it remains a metaphor or is further expanded upon later in the story is yet to be seen), so I added the tag to account for them. Other than that, depending on the MC's chosen pronouns, certain characters' infatuation with them can be seen as very, very softcore LGBT romance, though that is not the novel's main focus. I do admit that the LGBT themes are a lot less important to the plot than in most other FVNs, but I still think the tagging is appropriate for the reasons outlined above.
I just spent about 6-8ish hours reading through this. Didn't expect to go through in a session, but was very nicely done, and im far too sad to have reached the current end.
I'm sorry, but right now, we're only looking for people I've personally known long enough to spearhead official translation projects. Moreover, if you needed an online translator just to post this message, you might lack the fluency in both languages needed to translate an entire novel in another language. I suggest you start improving your fluency by translating smaller works and work your way up from there.
That said, if you do still wish to translate NMF on your own time, I cannot stop you. Just follow the rules you outlined in your message and it'll be fine.
I read the story 2 times once before update 15 and once after and i must say it that the story has improved a lot after update 15 the team did a great job improving the story. Also can't wait for the next chapter :)
Idk why but because of how far in the future this is set in instead of a rich dude blasting Beethoven in a car from the 1930's I'm imagining some rich dude in a base model 2023 Honda Civic blasting Ballin by Roddy Rich 💀💀
This game is the best itch game I have ever played, I'm only like 10-15 minutes in and I'm already hooked on the story and can't wait to see where it goes. 20 out of 10.
I am playing, but I am waiting for the choices to appear. its rather hard to play when there are no choices yet other than the name and pronouns.
it is very cute though. I just keep expecting choice windows, but its very on rails. I am enjoying it, and thank you for makign this, as I like synths. ^^
The way they dont let you know what isac us before the transition is so smart because it lets you imagine your fursona as isac so you can get even more attached to the story. So the point is this is done amazingly
It's really good I like the art style but there's like thousands of paragraphs of talking just for one little thing there could be millions of paragraphs just for one chapter I don't even know how you can write this much like you spend maybe half an hour just reading all the stuff before you switch to a new scene overall good
Strangely, I'm doing quite well reading this VN. Maybe the main reason is this VN is easy to understand even though the topic is heavy subject.
Why do I when I first encounter this VN I'm not interested with the thumbnail? The art is very unique and interesting! I like it!
The plot is very good. I still not find how important are the stories about the ‘mismatch’ siblings, Pandora vs FBI, the ‘twisted’ cousin, and the long lost friend with the main plot: “real or fake Isaac”. However, I started to see how these are entangled. It seems we haven't on the middle of the story yet.
I love all of the characters! I think they're well written! But, the the dynamic that I love the most is the dynamic between Jasper and Mary. I feel like they're parents in the Pandora company. Despite Jasper seems hard on the surface, he's really care about Pandora, his family. He tried protect his family from the world outside, even though he have to be harsh and hated because of it. He likes a father figure in the company. In the other hands, Mary is easygoing and doesn't care about what world outside thinks. She keeps the harmonies between family members, by motivate them and protect the family from inside. Mary is like mother figure in the company. I don't know the ages gap between them, but I started to ship them...
I'm very excited to see how this VNs unveiled! Waiting for the next update!
If you are suffering from depression or are easily overwhelmed by these topic.......caution when reading the contents of this VN or refrain from playing altogether.
The summary sounds cool and interesting, but I'm afraid I can't handle the it
Another great update)) Probably minor spoilers ahead
The way Nem and Isaac placed(watch their tails) in image when first time met in new chapter is just coincidence or intended?If last and given their later сonversations.....
About uncle and aunt, with overall novel direction that would be really bad time for Isaac , especially because they are religious.In mere fact nothing bad, but religious people more likely than others to turn those things in negative side. And others pretty showed themselves earlier.Which is terrifyingly realistic, for real life, not this novel(wrote earlier about this).
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Honestly this is one of the best novels I've read. Even tho this novel has some fantasy elements it steel feels realistic and believable, emotional and gripping. Isaac is very relatable, the pain he feels hits so close to home and honestly I cried a little while reading... Also the characters are, something else, I've never seen such clever 4D chess mind games, they confuse not only Isaac, but me as well. The art and music is very charming and beautiful too.
Wish I could volunteer for synth testing program as well ngl...
I just tried out the game, by curiosity, but I ended up almost playing through all chapters in one session. (Of course, I didn't just speedrun the game...)
I didn't get to play it until now, probably scared off by the heavy topics warning, and having a lot on my mind lately.
However, I think this heavy topics warning is kind of insignifiant in the game. I'm not saying the warning isn't needed through...
I honestly got flabbergasted by this VN, in more ways than I can probably figure out. Sure, there isn't any paths/choices in it, compared to every other VN I played. But seriously... The ambiance, the backgrounds, the music, the characters...
WARNING Spoilers ahead
Most importantly: The combat scenes !!! They're just so unique and epic.
I love every details of this VN and can't wait for the next chapter !
I'm curious about why you say that? I'm still kinda looking out for that suicide topic... Not that I want Isaac to do that, but I think I might be getting closer to such a buildup while reading this story. Also I can't believe the world he lives in where you can't even defend yourself from others without going to jail....
I liked this game, and now I've got toasters on the brain. Thanks for making what you have, and I'll be keeping an eye on this for future content!
Spoiler-y, so gonna pad some space here. Play the game first, nerd.
I take the Newton's Flaming Laser Sword approach when it comes to abstracts like yuumanity, but I still enjoyed the back and forth between the characters in the story about trying to break down what it is and all the new things I learned about them as the story went on! Great job with that.
The concept of after-story content was something I never considered! It's a great idea! I enjoyed the little side things in there almost more than I did with our toasty friend.
... Now, if I were a toaster told not to make a scene that one time, I think I'd take the nearest willing pink and purple participant, have them spread their arms out on each side, and give them a piggyback ride while making airplane noises all over the aisles. Consequences be darned.
5/5 crunchy and good with butter
i have never played such an emotionally gripping visual novel since maybe adastra. would recommend but be warned for an existential crisis
Agreed
cant wait for the next bit
Hello, Sedge, how come I can't access the discord channel for NMF anymore?
what kind of yumuan was issac pre transiton?
It was never specified, I think the author has said a while ago that they wanted to keep it ambiguous
oh, alright, thank you!
This was wayyyyy worth the wait everything from the story to the ending is awesome and kind of mind blowing.
Props to the no more future team
Does the Ren’Py embedded in the PC build is same as Ren’Py embedded in the Android APK file? Since I can’t load my saves from Android to PC, it throws an error about module not found, assuming the APK file uses old version of Ren’Py that has the module while the PC does not have the module because of the new Ren’Py version.
Honestly, I've no idea! It might be the case, I have a friend compile the android builds for me and our Renpy versions might not coincide. If you're having trouble loading old saves, try using the Chapter Select feature! Just start a new game, answer "no" to the prompt, then resume browsing from whichever chapter you left off at. ^w^
Oh, I didn’t know that until now. Thanks.
you should read this for hot max stirner alone, sorry but i don't make the rules that's just how it is
Does Isaac have borderline personality disorder? 🤔 Coz I see more of myself in him with each update 😅
It's always a good day when NMF gets a new build
pretty sure theres a typo here i think it should say 'No More Father'
build 16 is absolutely insane. from a mad concentration of some of the best art i have seen, to a soundtrack that goes hard and the best dramatic thread yet. it's hard to believe that this is not only free, but exists to begin with. i cannot express how much of a credit to the format this is.
just ran build 16 and i crashed when trying start a new game here's the crash log
```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While loading <'Scale' <'Image' u'images/bg/bg bloomburg fountain.webp'> 400 225 True>:
File "game/script.rpy", line 95, in script
call screen ChapterSelect()
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 569, in execute_call_screen
store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'images/bg/bg bloomburg fountain.webp'.
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "game/script.rpy", line 95, in script
call screen ChapterSelect()
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1969, in execute
self.call("execute")
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1957, in call
return renpy.statements.call(method, parsed, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/statements.py", line 278, in call
return method(parsed, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 569, in execute_call_screen
store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/exports.py", line 3057, in call_screen
rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse="screen", type="screen", roll_forward=roll_forward)
File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3213, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3729, in interact_core
self.draw_screen(root_widget, fullscreen_video, (not fullscreen_video) or video_frame_drawn)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2466, in draw_screen
renpy.config.screen_height,
File "render.pyx", line 492, in renpy.display.render.render_screen
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 783, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 783, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 783, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 681, in render
child = renpy.display.render.render(self.child, w, h, st, at)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 783, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 944, in render
surf = render(d, rw, height - y, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/viewport.py", line 631, in render
surf = renpy.display.render.render(c, cw, ch, st, at)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 791, in render
rv = super(Button, self).render(width, height, st, at)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1190, in render
st, at)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 783, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/transform.py", line 706, in render
return transform_render(self, width, height, st, at)
File "accelerator.pyx", line 140, in renpy.display.accelerator.transform_render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 607, in render
return cache.get(self, render=True)
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 271, in get
surf = image.load()
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 858, in load
child = cache.get(self.image)
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 271, in get
surf = image.load()
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 688, in load
raise e
IOError: Couldn't find file 'images/bg/bg bloomburg fountain.webp'.
Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.5.1648
No More Future 16.0
Wed Jan 3 09:02:32 2024
```
found this in the log file, wasnt in the traceback
While loading <'Scale' <'Image' u'images/bg/bg bloomburg fountain.webp'> 400 225 True>:
File "game/script.rpy", line 95, in script
call screen ChapterSelect()
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 569, in execute_call_screen
store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'images/bg/bg bloomburg fountain.webp'.
checked my older version on steam, worked just fine, it seems to be an issue with build 16
i even wiped ALL my save files and it still isnt working.
okay so i found the fuck up. after looking though the logs, files, etc. you changed the name of "bg bloomburg fountain.webp" in the older versions, splitting them into "bg bloomburg fountain day.webp" and "bg bloomburg fountain evening.webp" but you forgot to update the code from before.
thats what it seems like at least.
Has it been fixed yet?
steam version seems to be working at least
Yes, it's been fixed. Just download the game again (from either Itch or Steam) and it'll work just fine.
Just play it on Steam.
I had this game for a while then forgot about it. Really good stuff!
I just got through the prologue and woah I really love this vn! I might be overanalyzing but this might be a not so subtle allegory for gender affirming surgery for trans people on a narrative about self-identity, consciousness, ai, and the philosophical debate of what makes you really you. If this was the intention of the writer then this vn freaking rules! Regardless the writing is great and the story is intriguing, will continue reading more :DD
Really enjoyed this so far, looking forward to seeing how it continues. Great story and characters, and the art is very good.
Imma see if this works on a mid 2000 smartphone
I love this story so far but still donno about one thing...
Why is LGBT tag here? I mean, thats how ive found this VN, but i didnt see anything... related as well. Asking just out of curiosity, it doesnt affect my impression of this game >,>
Depending on the first few (and only) choices in the game, you can either keep the MC's given name, or change it to one of your (their) liking, along with choosing their preferred pronouns. If you do decide to alter their identity, the game remembers this, and certain characters will interact with the MC a little differently depending on their choice. Some readers feel as though this is a metaphor for trans people and trans self-expression (whether it remains a metaphor or is further expanded upon later in the story is yet to be seen), so I added the tag to account for them. Other than that, depending on the MC's chosen pronouns, certain characters' infatuation with them can be seen as very, very softcore LGBT romance, though that is not the novel's main focus. I do admit that the LGBT themes are a lot less important to the plot than in most other FVNs, but I still think the tagging is appropriate for the reasons outlined above.
Huh... i thought about it but wanted to confirm. Good idea x3
(Romance with Nem would be a dream come true, not gonna lie)
I just spent about 6-8ish hours reading through this. Didn't expect to go through in a session, but was very nicely done, and im far too sad to have reached the current end.
Very well done to grab me so.
It won't start up... how? You're launching the .exe file and it doesn't do anything?
I'm sorry, but right now, we're only looking for people I've personally known long enough to spearhead official translation projects. Moreover, if you needed an online translator just to post this message, you might lack the fluency in both languages needed to translate an entire novel in another language. I suggest you start improving your fluency by translating smaller works and work your way up from there.
That said, if you do still wish to translate NMF on your own time, I cannot stop you. Just follow the rules you outlined in your message and it'll be fine.
I read the story 2 times once before update 15 and once after and i must say it that the story has improved a lot after update 15 the team did a great job improving the story. Also can't wait for the next chapter :)
Idk why but because of how far in the future this is set in instead of a rich dude blasting Beethoven in a car from the 1930's I'm imagining some rich dude in a base model 2023 Honda Civic blasting Ballin by Roddy Rich 💀💀
im really liking this game
I was fun to play and if your offline for a long time then your have many hours of entertainment. I like the art style too(yes I played ELoNR aswell)
This game is the best itch game I have ever played, I'm only like 10-15 minutes in and I'm already hooked on the story and can't wait to see where it goes. 20 out of 10.
I am playing, but I am waiting for the choices to appear. its rather hard to play when there are no choices yet other than the name and pronouns.
it is very cute though. I just keep expecting choice windows, but its very on rails. I am enjoying it, and thank you for makign this, as I like synths. ^^
The game is linear so there won't be significant choices if any.
thank you. I understand.
Where can I find the soundtrack? Its amazing
There are links to all the composers at the top of the page, they each have a playlist featuring their tracks for the game.
i did the same, it was surprisingly easy lol
The way they dont let you know what isac us before the transition is so smart because it lets you imagine your fursona as isac so you can get even more attached to the story. So the point is this is done amazingly
It's really good I like the art style but there's like thousands of paragraphs of talking just for one little thing there could be millions of paragraphs just for one chapter I don't even know how you can write this much like you spend maybe half an hour just reading all the stuff before you switch to a new scene overall good
Yeah... we're working on that. The upcoming rewrites in Build 15 will fix the pacing issues a fair bit, I hope. TwT
nice 👍
keep up the good work man, I've enjoyed what you've done so far
i loved this so much please give us more📄
WHEN CHAPTER 11 I NEED CHAPTER 11 PLEASE I BEG YOU AAAAAAAAAA (i love this novel i don't want it to ever end)
i also dont want it to end
I LOVE THIS GAME
the ai thing reminds me of SOMA [steam game] no spoilers go play it for your self
Strangely, I'm doing quite well reading this VN. Maybe the main reason is this VN is easy to understand even though the topic is heavy subject.
Why do I when I first encounter this VN I'm not interested with the thumbnail? The art is very unique and interesting! I like it!
The plot is very good. I still not find how important are the stories about the ‘mismatch’ siblings, Pandora vs FBI, the ‘twisted’ cousin, and the long lost friend with the main plot: “real or fake Isaac”. However, I started to see how these are entangled. It seems we haven't on the middle of the story yet.
I love all of the characters! I think they're well written! But, the the dynamic that I love the most is the dynamic between Jasper and Mary. I feel like they're parents in the Pandora company. Despite Jasper seems hard on the surface, he's really care about Pandora, his family. He tried protect his family from the world outside, even though he have to be harsh and hated because of it. He likes a father figure in the company. In the other hands, Mary is easygoing and doesn't care about what world outside thinks. She keeps the harmonies between family members, by motivate them and protect the family from inside. Mary is like mother figure in the company. I don't know the ages gap between them, but I started to ship them...
I'm very excited to see how this VNs unveiled! Waiting for the next update!
Due the heavy subject, I take a break on reading this VN around Isaac second visit when Isaac, Mary, and Nat discussing about ability users.
Sorry if my review didn't including the current update
I really enjoying this VN!
The summary sounds cool and interesting, but I'm afraid I can't handle the it
What should I do?
What should I do?
If you don't think you can handle the heavy subject matter, then just leave the novel aside, and wait until you're in a better headspace to delve in!
Only one way to find out: read it bit by bit and let my bipolar do its job...
Go for it man, give it a try its amazing
Another great update))
Probably minor spoilers ahead
The way Nem and Isaac placed(watch their tails) in image when first time met in new chapter is just coincidence or intended?If last and given their later сonversations.....
About uncle and aunt, with overall novel direction that would be really bad time for Isaac , especially because they are religious.In mere fact nothing bad, but religious people more likely than others to turn those things in negative side.
And others pretty showed themselves earlier.Which is terrifyingly realistic, for real life, not this novel(wrote earlier about this).
P.S. Still hate the library.