build 16 is absolutely insane. from a mad concentration of some of the best art i have seen, to a soundtrack that goes hard and the best dramatic thread yet. it's hard to believe that this is not only free, but exists to begin with. i cannot express how much of a credit to the format this is.
okay so i found the fuck up. after looking though the logs, files, etc. you changed the name of "bg bloomburg fountain.webp" in the older versions, splitting them into "bg bloomburg fountain day.webp" and "bg bloomburg fountain evening.webp" but you forgot to update the code from before.
I just got through the prologue and woah I really love this vn! I might be overanalyzing but this might be a not so subtle allegory for gender affirming surgery for trans people on a narrative about self-identity, consciousness, ai, and the philosophical debate of what makes you really you. If this was the intention of the writer then this vn freaking rules! Regardless the writing is great and the story is intriguing, will continue reading more :DD
I love this story so far but still donno about one thing... Why is LGBT tag here? I mean, thats how ive found this VN, but i didnt see anything... related as well. Asking just out of curiosity, it doesnt affect my impression of this game >,>
Depending on the first few (and only) choices in the game, you can either keep the MC's given name, or change it to one of your (their) liking, along with choosing their preferred pronouns. If you do decide to alter their identity, the game remembers this, and certain characters will interact with the MC a little differently depending on their choice. Some readers feel as though this is a metaphor for trans people and trans self-expression (whether it remains a metaphor or is further expanded upon later in the story is yet to be seen), so I added the tag to account for them. Other than that, depending on the MC's chosen pronouns, certain characters' infatuation with them can be seen as very, very softcore LGBT romance, though that is not the novel's main focus. I do admit that the LGBT themes are a lot less important to the plot than in most other FVNs, but I still think the tagging is appropriate for the reasons outlined above.
I just spent about 6-8ish hours reading through this. Didn't expect to go through in a session, but was very nicely done, and im far too sad to have reached the current end.
I'm sorry, but right now, we're only looking for people I've personally known long enough to spearhead official translation projects. Moreover, if you needed an online translator just to post this message, you might lack the fluency in both languages needed to translate an entire novel in another language. I suggest you start improving your fluency by translating smaller works and work your way up from there.
That said, if you do still wish to translate NMF on your own time, I cannot stop you. Just follow the rules you outlined in your message and it'll be fine.
I read the story 2 times once before update 15 and once after and i must say it that the story has improved a lot after update 15 the team did a great job improving the story. Also can't wait for the next chapter :)
Idk why but because of how far in the future this is set in instead of a rich dude blasting Beethoven in a car from the 1930's I'm imagining some rich dude in a base model 2023 Honda Civic blasting Ballin by Roddy Rich 💀💀
This game is the best itch game I have ever played, I'm only like 10-15 minutes in and I'm already hooked on the story and can't wait to see where it goes. 20 out of 10.
I am playing, but I am waiting for the choices to appear. its rather hard to play when there are no choices yet other than the name and pronouns.
it is very cute though. I just keep expecting choice windows, but its very on rails. I am enjoying it, and thank you for makign this, as I like synths. ^^
The way they dont let you know what isac us before the transition is so smart because it lets you imagine your fursona as isac so you can get even more attached to the story. So the point is this is done amazingly
It's really good I like the art style but there's like thousands of paragraphs of talking just for one little thing there could be millions of paragraphs just for one chapter I don't even know how you can write this much like you spend maybe half an hour just reading all the stuff before you switch to a new scene overall good
Strangely, I'm doing quite well reading this VN. Maybe the main reason is this VN is easy to understand even though the topic is heavy subject.
Why do I when I first encounter this VN I'm not interested with the thumbnail? The art is very unique and interesting! I like it!
The plot is very good. I still not find how important are the stories about the ‘mismatch’ siblings, Pandora vs FBI, the ‘twisted’ cousin, and the long lost friend with the main plot: “real or fake Isaac”. However, I started to see how these are entangled. It seems we haven't on the middle of the story yet.
I love all of the characters! I think they're well written! But, the the dynamic that I love the most is the dynamic between Jasper and Mary. I feel like they're parents in the Pandora company. Despite Jasper seems hard on the surface, he's really care about Pandora, his family. He tried protect his family from the world outside, even though he have to be harsh and hated because of it. He likes a father figure in the company. In the other hands, Mary is easygoing and doesn't care about what world outside thinks. She keeps the harmonies between family members, by motivate them and protect the family from inside. Mary is like mother figure in the company. I don't know the ages gap between them, but I started to ship them...
I'm very excited to see how this VNs unveiled! Waiting for the next update!
If you are suffering from depression or are easily overwhelmed by these topic.......caution when reading the contents of this VN or refrain from playing altogether.
The summary sounds cool and interesting, but I'm afraid I can't handle the it
Another great update)) Probably minor spoilers ahead
The way Nem and Isaac placed(watch their tails) in image when first time met in new chapter is just coincidence or intended?If last and given their later сonversations.....
About uncle and aunt, with overall novel direction that would be really bad time for Isaac , especially because they are religious.In mere fact nothing bad, but religious people more likely than others to turn those things in negative side. And others pretty showed themselves earlier.Which is terrifyingly realistic, for real life, not this novel(wrote earlier about this).
I have a lot of question when I finished chapter 10 and after reading Mary's side story I can confidently say that I am thoroughly confused.
WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN HAPPENING
but I kinda get why we need to have Isaac as our protagonist now, because everyone else seems to have this malicious quality on them and as shown on the side story, Mary have an apparent interest in Isaac in particular which is reinforced by the event of chapter 7 - 10 where we get a glimpse of how weird the world of this game is actually is.
Why does Daphne find it so weird for people to want to do the right thing? Why does everyone find the state of economy being held by one major power normal? Why does the name Pandora and Prometheus not trigger a red flag on people if the world of this VN is based on the real world but is diverged at some point in the timeline according to what we're already shown so far?
George doesn't seem to have a malicious quality to him, and neither does Nem, unless you consider his acceptance that the global economy is run by one corporation because he is realistic to be malicious.
Everyone finds that one major power holding the state of the economy is normal for the same reason many of us in the real world do most of our shopping on Amazon and why we rely on Google more than we should, because it's convenient.
Finished chapter 10 and with it build 13, No More Future continues to be an amazing novel
Minor spoiler
Isaac, I know you only had the best of intentions, but you should have offered to pay for the items that Nem couldn't afford and respected his choice if he declined. you can't just interpose yourself between him and the self-checkout kiosk and pay without saying a word.
I hope everything will turn out ok between Isaac and New and that this doesn't end their friendship. Isaac has so few friends as it is.
I recently finished reading through all the chapters of No More Future available so far, great visual novel! I was saddened when I reached the end of chapter 9 because the novel is just so good!
I did encounter what could be an issue with the novel on iOS, though. I might be missing something but I am unable to scroll down in the chapter selection menu to select the side story, or chapter 9, for that matter. For reference, I read NMF on a 2nd-Gen iPhone SE.
I think you're supposed to hold the space between the chapter icons and scroll down. It's a bit complicated, but we're planning on implementing a better scroll feature in the future.
Yeah, it's tricky but I've mostly gotten the hang of it. As for a better scrolling experience, may I make a suggestion? If you haven't already, I think you should consider adding the buttons the backgrounds and fanart galleries use.
It does, but it makes it very cumbersome to back up & sync your saves. And there's probably other issues I just haven't run into yet. Also, the Steam version includes everything that's needed to run natively, but it uses Proton anyway.
I'll try again to add more platforms to Steam when the next build comes out, but last time I couldn't get it to work... Steam really is way too complicated to release on compared to itch. TwT
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It's always a good day when NMF gets a new build
pretty sure theres a typo here i think it should say 'No More Father'
build 16 is absolutely insane. from a mad concentration of some of the best art i have seen, to a soundtrack that goes hard and the best dramatic thread yet. it's hard to believe that this is not only free, but exists to begin with. i cannot express how much of a credit to the format this is.
just ran build 16 and i crashed when trying start a new game here's the crash log
```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While loading <'Scale' <'Image' u'images/bg/bg bloomburg fountain.webp'> 400 225 True>:
File "game/script.rpy", line 95, in script
call screen ChapterSelect()
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 569, in execute_call_screen
store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'images/bg/bg bloomburg fountain.webp'.
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "game/script.rpy", line 95, in script
call screen ChapterSelect()
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1969, in execute
self.call("execute")
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1957, in call
return renpy.statements.call(method, parsed, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/statements.py", line 278, in call
return method(parsed, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 569, in execute_call_screen
store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/exports.py", line 3057, in call_screen
rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse="screen", type="screen", roll_forward=roll_forward)
File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3213, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3729, in interact_core
self.draw_screen(root_widget, fullscreen_video, (not fullscreen_video) or video_frame_drawn)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2466, in draw_screen
renpy.config.screen_height,
File "render.pyx", line 492, in renpy.display.render.render_screen
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 783, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 783, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 783, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 681, in render
child = renpy.display.render.render(self.child, w, h, st, at)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 783, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 944, in render
surf = render(d, rw, height - y, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/viewport.py", line 631, in render
surf = renpy.display.render.render(c, cw, ch, st, at)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 791, in render
rv = super(Button, self).render(width, height, st, at)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1190, in render
st, at)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 783, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/transform.py", line 706, in render
return transform_render(self, width, height, st, at)
File "accelerator.pyx", line 140, in renpy.display.accelerator.transform_render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 607, in render
return cache.get(self, render=True)
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 271, in get
surf = image.load()
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 858, in load
child = cache.get(self.image)
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 271, in get
surf = image.load()
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 688, in load
raise e
IOError: Couldn't find file 'images/bg/bg bloomburg fountain.webp'.
Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.5.1648
No More Future 16.0
Wed Jan 3 09:02:32 2024
```
found this in the log file, wasnt in the traceback
While loading <'Scale' <'Image' u'images/bg/bg bloomburg fountain.webp'> 400 225 True>:
File "game/script.rpy", line 95, in script
call screen ChapterSelect()
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 569, in execute_call_screen
store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'images/bg/bg bloomburg fountain.webp'.
checked my older version on steam, worked just fine, it seems to be an issue with build 16
i even wiped ALL my save files and it still isnt working.
okay so i found the fuck up. after looking though the logs, files, etc. you changed the name of "bg bloomburg fountain.webp" in the older versions, splitting them into "bg bloomburg fountain day.webp" and "bg bloomburg fountain evening.webp" but you forgot to update the code from before.
thats what it seems like at least.
Has it been fixed yet?
steam version seems to be working at least
Yes, it's been fixed. Just download the game again (from either Itch or Steam) and it'll work just fine.
Just play it on Steam.
I had this game for a while then forgot about it. Really good stuff!
I just got through the prologue and woah I really love this vn! I might be overanalyzing but this might be a not so subtle allegory for gender affirming surgery for trans people on a narrative about self-identity, consciousness, ai, and the philosophical debate of what makes you really you. If this was the intention of the writer then this vn freaking rules! Regardless the writing is great and the story is intriguing, will continue reading more :DD
Really enjoyed this so far, looking forward to seeing how it continues. Great story and characters, and the art is very good.
Imma see if this works on a mid 2000 smartphone
I love this story so far but still donno about one thing...
Why is LGBT tag here? I mean, thats how ive found this VN, but i didnt see anything... related as well. Asking just out of curiosity, it doesnt affect my impression of this game >,>
Depending on the first few (and only) choices in the game, you can either keep the MC's given name, or change it to one of your (their) liking, along with choosing their preferred pronouns. If you do decide to alter their identity, the game remembers this, and certain characters will interact with the MC a little differently depending on their choice. Some readers feel as though this is a metaphor for trans people and trans self-expression (whether it remains a metaphor or is further expanded upon later in the story is yet to be seen), so I added the tag to account for them. Other than that, depending on the MC's chosen pronouns, certain characters' infatuation with them can be seen as very, very softcore LGBT romance, though that is not the novel's main focus. I do admit that the LGBT themes are a lot less important to the plot than in most other FVNs, but I still think the tagging is appropriate for the reasons outlined above.
Huh... i thought about it but wanted to confirm. Good idea x3
(Romance with Nem would be a dream come true, not gonna lie)
I just spent about 6-8ish hours reading through this. Didn't expect to go through in a session, but was very nicely done, and im far too sad to have reached the current end.
Very well done to grab me so.
It won't start up... how? You're launching the .exe file and it doesn't do anything?
I'm sorry, but right now, we're only looking for people I've personally known long enough to spearhead official translation projects. Moreover, if you needed an online translator just to post this message, you might lack the fluency in both languages needed to translate an entire novel in another language. I suggest you start improving your fluency by translating smaller works and work your way up from there.
That said, if you do still wish to translate NMF on your own time, I cannot stop you. Just follow the rules you outlined in your message and it'll be fine.
I read the story 2 times once before update 15 and once after and i must say it that the story has improved a lot after update 15 the team did a great job improving the story. Also can't wait for the next chapter :)
Idk why but because of how far in the future this is set in instead of a rich dude blasting Beethoven in a car from the 1930's I'm imagining some rich dude in a base model 2023 Honda Civic blasting Ballin by Roddy Rich 💀💀
im really liking this game
I was fun to play and if your offline for a long time then your have many hours of entertainment. I like the art style too(yes I played ELoNR aswell)
This game is the best itch game I have ever played, I'm only like 10-15 minutes in and I'm already hooked on the story and can't wait to see where it goes. 20 out of 10.
I am playing, but I am waiting for the choices to appear. its rather hard to play when there are no choices yet other than the name and pronouns.
it is very cute though. I just keep expecting choice windows, but its very on rails. I am enjoying it, and thank you for makign this, as I like synths. ^^
The game is linear so there won't be significant choices if any.
thank you. I understand.
Where can I find the soundtrack? Its amazing
There are links to all the composers at the top of the page, they each have a playlist featuring their tracks for the game.
i did the same, it was surprisingly easy lol
The way they dont let you know what isac us before the transition is so smart because it lets you imagine your fursona as isac so you can get even more attached to the story. So the point is this is done amazingly
It's really good I like the art style but there's like thousands of paragraphs of talking just for one little thing there could be millions of paragraphs just for one chapter I don't even know how you can write this much like you spend maybe half an hour just reading all the stuff before you switch to a new scene overall good
Yeah... we're working on that. The upcoming rewrites in Build 15 will fix the pacing issues a fair bit, I hope. TwT
nice 👍
keep up the good work man, I've enjoyed what you've done so far
i loved this so much please give us more📄
WHEN CHAPTER 11 I NEED CHAPTER 11 PLEASE I BEG YOU AAAAAAAAAA (i love this novel i don't want it to ever end)
i also dont want it to end
I LOVE THIS GAME
the ai thing reminds me of SOMA [steam game] no spoilers go play it for your self
Strangely, I'm doing quite well reading this VN. Maybe the main reason is this VN is easy to understand even though the topic is heavy subject.
Why do I when I first encounter this VN I'm not interested with the thumbnail? The art is very unique and interesting! I like it!
The plot is very good. I still not find how important are the stories about the ‘mismatch’ siblings, Pandora vs FBI, the ‘twisted’ cousin, and the long lost friend with the main plot: “real or fake Isaac”. However, I started to see how these are entangled. It seems we haven't on the middle of the story yet.
I love all of the characters! I think they're well written! But, the the dynamic that I love the most is the dynamic between Jasper and Mary. I feel like they're parents in the Pandora company. Despite Jasper seems hard on the surface, he's really care about Pandora, his family. He tried protect his family from the world outside, even though he have to be harsh and hated because of it. He likes a father figure in the company. In the other hands, Mary is easygoing and doesn't care about what world outside thinks. She keeps the harmonies between family members, by motivate them and protect the family from inside. Mary is like mother figure in the company. I don't know the ages gap between them, but I started to ship them...
I'm very excited to see how this VNs unveiled! Waiting for the next update!
Due the heavy subject, I take a break on reading this VN around Isaac second visit when Isaac, Mary, and Nat discussing about ability users.
Sorry if my review didn't including the current update
I really enjoying this VN!
The summary sounds cool and interesting, but I'm afraid I can't handle the it
What should I do?
What should I do?
If you don't think you can handle the heavy subject matter, then just leave the novel aside, and wait until you're in a better headspace to delve in!
Only one way to find out: read it bit by bit and let my bipolar do its job...
Go for it man, give it a try its amazing
Another great update))
Probably minor spoilers ahead
The way Nem and Isaac placed(watch their tails) in image when first time met in new chapter is just coincidence or intended?If last and given their later сonversations.....
About uncle and aunt, with overall novel direction that would be really bad time for Isaac , especially because they are religious.In mere fact nothing bad, but religious people more likely than others to turn those things in negative side.
And others pretty showed themselves earlier.Which is terrifyingly realistic, for real life, not this novel(wrote earlier about this).
P.S. Still hate the library.
Minor spoiler
I have a lot of question when I finished chapter 10 and after reading Mary's side story I can confidently say that I am thoroughly confused.
WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN HAPPENING
but I kinda get why we need to have Isaac as our protagonist now, because everyone else seems to have this malicious quality on them and as shown on the side story, Mary have an apparent interest in Isaac in particular which is reinforced by the event of chapter 7 - 10 where we get a glimpse of how weird the world of this game is actually is.
Why does Daphne find it so weird for people to want to do the right thing? Why does everyone find the state of economy being held by one major power normal? Why does the name Pandora and Prometheus not trigger a red flag on people if the world of this VN is based on the real world but is diverged at some point in the timeline according to what we're already shown so far?
Amazing writing
George doesn't seem to have a malicious quality to him, and neither does Nem, unless you consider his acceptance that the global economy is run by one corporation because he is realistic to be malicious.
Everyone finds that one major power holding the state of the economy is normal for the same reason many of us in the real world do most of our shopping on Amazon and why we rely on Google more than we should, because it's convenient.
I agree, the writing is amazing!
I concur with alarmingly, this VN is 100/10! Keep up the great work!
This contains a minor spoiler
Finished chapter 10 and with it build 13, No More Future continues to be an amazing novel
Minor spoiler
Isaac, I know you only had the best of intentions, but you should have offered to pay for the items that Nem couldn't afford and respected his choice if he declined. you can't just interpose yourself between him and the self-checkout kiosk and pay without saying a word.
I hope everything will turn out ok between Isaac and New and that this doesn't end their friendship. Isaac has so few friends as it is.
Guess we'll have to wait and see to find out.
Damn, I gotta play this! I love seeing people have lore to their OCs. This might be right up my alley.
THE BEST VN I HAVE EVER READ this actually feeds my autisim so much
tbh this is the best VN i've ever read
its definitely a 100/10
YOOOOOOOO NEM(I just got to the part where he is at) Hehehehe I love that lil dude
Hi Sedge and team,
I recently finished reading through all the chapters of No More Future available so far, great visual novel! I was saddened when I reached the end of chapter 9 because the novel is just so good!
I did encounter what could be an issue with the novel on iOS, though. I might be missing something but I am unable to scroll down in the chapter selection menu to select the side story, or chapter 9, for that matter. For reference, I read NMF on a 2nd-Gen iPhone SE.
I think you're supposed to hold the space between the chapter icons and scroll down. It's a bit complicated, but we're planning on implementing a better scroll feature in the future.
Yeah, it's tricky but I've mostly gotten the hang of it. As for a better scrolling experience, may I make a suggestion? If you haven't already, I think you should consider adding the buttons the backgrounds and fanart galleries use.
Still playing but {spoilers} POOR GEORGE ToT
Any chance we'll get a Linux build on Steam?
I assume proton would work
It does, but it makes it very cumbersome to back up & sync your saves. And there's probably other issues I just haven't run into yet. Also, the Steam version includes everything that's needed to run natively, but it uses Proton anyway.
I'll try again to add more platforms to Steam when the next build comes out, but last time I couldn't get it to work... Steam really is way too complicated to release on compared to itch. TwT
is this game bout end of the world